Sat, Jan 09|
Forum: Stoicism and Epicureanism, part 2
Are stoicism and epicureanism really so different? And why have we ended up choosing one over the other to follow?
Time & Location
Jan 09, 2021, 4:00 PM – 6:00 PM GMT+1
About the Event
Greetings fellow stoics!
Happy holidays and happy new year! Welcome back to the Berlin Stoics. A break is always good, but now let's recommence our stoic inquiry in a brand new year. Firstly, this next forum we will continue discussion on stoicism and epicureanism, comparing and contrasting them and understanding where they diverge and why we might have followed Zeno over Epicurus if we had lived in the heyday of hellenistic antiquity. They were stark critics of each other at their peak influence in Ancient Greece and Rome, but each eventually took their own path of development. The stoics were largely adopted by Christians and today a large international community is adapting it to modernity, and Epicureanism was picked up again by such writers as Marx and Hitchens. It is interesting to note that to an extent each had been founded on opposing metaphysical frameworks, and only later did their schools of thought develop the now famous ethical frameworks. In any case, both philosophies are largely misunderstood by the mainstream public today and are in some ways more similar and in others more different than we would have guessed.
Resources to learn more about these Hellenistic philosophies include:
- Pigliucci, M. (2019, September 19). Epic battles in practical ethics: stoicism vs Epicureanism. https://medium.com/stoicism-philosophy-as-a-way-of-life/epic-battles-in-practical-ethics-stoicism-vs-epicureanism-dc124e8dc9
- Pelzel, M. (2001). A comparison and contrast of three ancient roman philosophies. https://www.csun.edu/~bashforth/305_PDF/305_ME2/Compare&Contrast3RomanPhilosophies.pdf
- for additional introductions to stoicism and epicureanism, Wikipedia, the Stanford online encyclopedia (plato.stanford.edu), and the International encyclopedia of philosophy (iep.utm.edu) are all super helpful too, also with links and references to additional resources
- More include Epicurus' actual surviving work, including his "Principal Doctrines" - http://classics.mit.edu/Epicurus/princdoc.html
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