Sun, Oct 31


Stoic Ethics: for Eudaimonia or Virtue?, Level 1 Event

Despite a marginal consensus among academics today, now and in antiquity there's ambiguity as well as contention between those who ground the end to Stoic ethics in eudaimonia and those who ground it in virtue. Which drives you? Is Stoic ethics eudaimonistic or is eudaimonia simply a byproduct?

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Stoic Ethics: for Eudaimonia or Virtue?, Level 1 Event

Time & Location

Oct 31, 2021, 4:00 PM – 5:30 PM GMT+1

About the Event

Greetings fellow Stoics!

Spontaneous but we needed it! It's been a few weeks since we've had our last weekly virtual discussion. Usually on Thursdays, we decided the other day to organize something this afternoon. In the future we'll try to resume a Thursday weekly schedule for our virtual discussions as is normal.

Today we're hosting a discussion on the ambiguity everyone eventually finds when practicing and studying Stoicism: is virtue or eudaimonia the end to Stoic ethics? Remind yourself of the four cardinal virtues are wisdom, justice, temperance, and courage; that virtue is indicative of excellence of character and knowledge of the self. Remind yourself that eudaimonia in ancient Greek refers to the good life, a flourishing life. But there are sometimes conflicting passages from the ancients: those like the founder Zeno who claim that eudaimonia is the end while virtue is only the means, others who claim virtue is the end and eudaimonia only a byproduct of that end, while even others attempt to place both equitably as one's goal of ethical action and thought. How can we reconcile these differences? And what do the scholars say?

A potential follow-up discussion, if time allows, can base itself on the gulf between ancient virtue ethics and ethics today; the former grounding itself in science and logic, and the latter affirming its almost complete independence from science and logic.

These topics provide great glimpses into our next Book of the Month "A New Stoicism" by Lawrence Becker, the discussion on which will be held on 09. December.

Usually our virtual discussions are level 2 events, which means you must be familiar with some basic Stoic concepts and have some experience living Stoicism already in order to feel comfortable in this discussion. INSTEAD, this time this discussion is a level 1 event, which means you need have no prior experience with Stoicism or with philosophical concepts, although they do help. Please consult the details on what these levels mean here: Anyone can attend, and everyone is encouraged to attend, if only to listen.

Today's discussion will run 1.5 hours. We don't partition the time, but we will always connect the theory to practice.

A couple of words: (1) If you haven't already, you can join our Telegram discussion group and our announcements channel by contacting us and we'll send you a link to the channel. (2) The link to this event will be active between 20 and 10 minutes ahead of the start time, and we use for our video conferencing. (3) Lastly, we have recently been streaming our events live on youtube and saving them on file, especially for those who cannot make particular events; at the start of each event, Steve will of course ask if everyone is okay or anyone has a problem with this. Furthermore, we only share recordings afterwards if we reach the threshold of 4 participants (other than the facilitator).

We look forward to seeing you there!

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